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This thing kills them both in every way. The internal parts they use to build it are some of the best. This player is incredible. I got a lot of money into my home theater and this is the first dvd player that cds sound pretty decent on and I have owned over 30 dvd players. The sound is now mind blowing on my sound system and the picture looks even better after the upgrade. This unit sounds about 1000 times better then a cheap sony bluray player. This is a heavy unit with incredible build quality.
I then sent them both to the [.]. I have the top of the line hd toshiba player and a sony blu350 or some pile. I actually bought 2 of these and if you shop around you can find one for under $800. Picture looks awsome and the sound is insane. All others sounded so bad I couldnt use it for a cd player. and had them upgraded. I have a theta Gen VIII seriesII dac and this players internal dac gives the theta a run for the money.
The device did not read/reproduce the audio of the Blu-ray after less than 30 days of using it. I will be sending to Denon to get it fixed, repaired or replaced.
My friend and I purchased a Denon DVD-3800BDCI on the same day. I respect and admire the product as well as the manufacturer's integrity when service was needed. Ease of use & the quality of the product is stunning.
Blu-ray movies from both video and audio were fantastic. I started adding up the amount of DVD's and Blu-ray's I have in my library and the price issue became a non issue. We both agreed it made SD-DVD look like Blu-Ray.
All I had to do was look and listen. Collectively my friend and I own & have owned some amazing equipment. It is my opinion after owning several of the "best", Sony, Pioneer, blu-ray players the DVD3800BDCI is a statement product for the industry.
I had a brief service problem with my Denon while under warranty and the repair time would be excessive so they sent me a new unit. Audiomeister
This has been an awesome purchase. Fantastic picture quality, and easy to use. I had a Sony Blu-ray player (and I typically love Sony products), but this Denon is far superior. The load times for movies is significantly faster as well.
PROS: Superb CD over analog, excellent bass management, beautiful BD/DVD picture with Realta, decoding of ALL codecs, solid constructionCONS: Sluggish in response, expensive, not BD-Live 2.0 although some would call this a plus.I've owned this player for nearly a year now and have watched a lot of the bugs get fixed through firmware. The Realta keeps the video reference quality so no need to keep the DVD player.Summary: Targeted to owners of non-HDMI receivers who want extensive bass management and listen to CD's and play both DVD's and BD's in one player. fixed crossover).Pioneer Elite BD-09FD - another fine player but will not have DTS-HD MA decoding until future firmware. Owners in forums were slow to pick up on this due to HR being the "forgotten codec." It decodes ALL now. I personally would never buy a product based on "future functionality."Marantz BD8002 - a clone of the Denon 3800 with a different power supply, faceplate, and Marantz's own upsampling instead of Denon's AL24. The 3800 also does bitstream all codecs if you are so inclined. UPDATE: Decoding of DTS-HD HR (as of 1.115 firmware 11/24/08) is now included. I suggest you purchase an extended warranty or get the Marantz BD8002 since it has 3 yr warranty and is a clone.Similar players:Sony BDP-S5000ES - a fine player but lacks the bass management that the 3800 has for the analog output (ie.
This player is really targeted to the analog crowd as it's got AL24 processing and great Burr Brown DAC's. If you own an HDMI capable receiver, then the purchase is more questionable as you are paying for an analog section you may never use. It is also rumored to have variable crossover through future firmware but the manual currently implies fixed crossover. Otherwise almost everything is the same as the Denon.
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